Talking Community and Craft at the SLICE Literary Writers’ Conference on Sunday, September 8th!

Screen Shot 2019-08-28 at 12.32.51 PMWill you be at the SLICE Literary Writers’ Conference in Brooklyn this weekend? If so, join FPP curator and co-founder Stacy Parker Le Melle for Listen Up: Literary Innovators Discuss How To Build Community & Craft By Taking A Seat In The Audience. She’ll be speaking with Catapult Contributing Editor Lilly Dancyger, House of SpeakEasy Foundation Executive Director Paul Morris, and PEN America’s Literary Programs and World Voices Festival Producer Lily Philpott. The panel will be moderated by Andrea Kyung Oh. Join us at St. Francis College, 180 Remsen Street at 10:00am! For more info, click here. #SLICELitCon

 

FPP Interview: Alexandra Watson

IMG_9832In the FPP Interview with Apogee Executive Editor Alexandra Watson, who recently won the PEN/Nora Magid Award for Editing, she tells us about “going downtown” to 125th Street as a child, what it means to lose but also create space for activist-minded writers of color, and more. Come to Silvana on Sunday, April 28th to hear Watson read with Chaya Bhuvaneswar, Jericho BrownVeronica Liu, Holly Masturzo, and Willie Perdomo. Admission is free. See you at 6pm!

You’ve written about the power of “activist-minded writers and publications who dare to engage identity and social justice through art.” What is the impact you’ve witnessed? What are you personally experiencing? In the 20th century, publications like Opportunity and The Crisis gave voice to black writers who’d been neglected by mainstream publishing. Opportunity is long gone, as is the literature section of The Crisis. Even though I wasn’t around during those times, I feel the loss. And I feel responsible for centering the work, narratives, and perspectives of writers of color, especially those who may not have access to the mainstream literary world. People often ask whether works need to be explicitly political, or explicitly about identity, in order to be published in Apogee. I think that our words and the way we choose to arrange them always gets filtered through identity. The work in Apogee might make that filter more apparent–because the experience of identity is often closer to the surface for writers “on the margins.” Since Apogee started, I sense more of a willingness to engage with that art that makes the lens of identity more visible. That visibility can help us relate to one another in ways that timelines and biographies don’t. Personally, engaging with art–especially the art curated outside of the mainstream–has made me more aware of the many prisms of difference through which we come to language, and more aware of the ways that oppression operates.

Tell us about your Harlem(s). When do you remember first knowing Harlem? I remember walking down 125th Street with my daddy, trying to keep up with his long strides.125th was the farthest south we usually went when I’d visit NYC–he called 125th Street “downtown.” He’d let me sniff and pick out the incense I liked best. Recordings of Malcolm X’s speeches blaring from boomboxes. I remember noticing that I was the lightest-skinned person I could see! This was before the condos and long before Whole Foods.

When do you feel most “we”? When do you feel most “I”? I feel most “we” Thanksgiving, in an overly-heated apartment in the Bronx, with family, with the Classic R&B music channel on, and my aunts have had one too many Korbel mimosas, and one of the men is telling one of the women to fix him a plate, and someone brings out the photo album. I feel most “I” when I’m transferring at Times Square during rush hour.

Who are writers that we should be reading right now? Nella Larsen, Zora Neale Hurston, Chester Himes, Jean Toomer. Always!

FPP Interview: Holly Masturzo

Tamalpa editIn the FPP Interview with Professor Holly Mastuzo, who is joining us on Sunday from Jacksonville, Florida, we hear about how the natural and built environments inform her work, the historic connection of Harlem and Jacksonville, her ambivalence about land ownership, the glory of “women helping women” and so much more. Come to Silvana on Sunday, April 28th to hear Masturzo read with Chaya Bhuvaneswar, Jericho BrownVeronica Liu, Willie Perdomo, and Alexandra Watson. Admission is free. See you at 6pm!

You are a writer and professor of humanities and women’s studies born in Frankfurt, Germany, raised in Tampa, Florida, and now living in Jacksonville. Could you share a bit of how Florida’s natural and built environments have informed your art and teaching? Because Florida is so flat, we have a long horizon. Growing up on the Gulf side of Florida, the water also is calmer than on the Atlantic side. I remember many family trips to the beach, or boating from my aunt’s old property near Weeki Wachee Springs out to the Gulf, and how we could wade for what seemed like miles out from shore with the sea barely rising above our waists. There is a sense in a landscape like that not only of calm but of the possible, a slow, easy possible that can continue for as long as you are willing to open to it.

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The Florida sky on morning in Neptune Beach.

Of course there also are intense tropical storms and hurricanes one learns to size-up and shelter against, and no shortage of insects and other natural hazards. Harriet Beecher Stowe writing from Florida for readers up north, encouraged visitors not to expect only the paradise they may have heard about but to learn to appreciate “the wrong side of the tapestry” (Palmetto Leaves, 1873, p. 26). I love that scratchy, intense side of Florida, too, the heat and persistence of insects, and how all the green that surrounds us has an edge made for hard living.

It feels impossible not to pay attention in wild Florida and that quality of presence is something I seek out in most spaces, whether that be on the page or in the classroom or traveling to other places in the world.

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Blue Springs, FL where the manatees often gather in large numbers.

How do you find Florida’s human history impacting your thinking and your work? I believe if more people in the U.S. knew about the early chapters of Florida history, it could serve as an expansive counterpoint to some of our cultural tensions. Even in 2019, Florida has had more years under Spanish-speaking rule than English-speaking ones.

The two areas of Florida I know best, Tampa (Old Port Tampa and Ybor City) and Jacksonville-St.Augustine have layers of cosmopolitan ethnic histories that challenge and complicate the black-white narratives of Southern history as well as the immigrant-native-settler narratives of colonial history.

The cigar factories of Ybor City and the mixed Cuban, Italian, and somewhat smaller in number Jewish immigrants created significant radical political cultures in the decades before and after 1900. Growing up I spent a lot of time after school in central Ybor and the traces of that were still noticeable. In St.Augustine, not far beyond the walls of the Castillo de San Marcos, Fort Mose functioned as the first free black settlement in what is now the United States. While many of those residents followed the Spanish to Cuba when the British took possession of Florida briefly from 1763-1783, some returned during Spain’s second rule which continued until 1821. Their strategic yet comprehensive acceptance of free black peoples in north Florida rewrites the one-dimensional story of the Southeast with which we are often presented. It has taken going away and coming back to Florida as an adult for me to appreciate how formative growing up in and near those cosmopolitan cultural histories have been and I am working on engaging that more directly in this next phase of my writing.

It also has been good to spend a good portion of my last decade teaching a course called Humanities of the Americas where talking about these earlier urban spaces in Florida with students reminds me of the potential of these chapters in history to positively impact how we think about ourselves and where we live.

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Atlantic Beach, FL and the long, walk-able horizon.

Which natural landscapes inspire you? How do you feel about cities? If you could be living and working anywhere, where would it be? I am definitely a coastal girl and am most drawn to small to mid-size coastal cities that I can take in on a long day’s walk. Tampa Bay will always be a special place for me, visually, spiritually, physically. Visiting Salerno, Italy for the first time last summer, the nearest city to where my great grandparents immigrated from, brought a recognition of landscape, scale, and place as well. I feel similarly in San Diego, a semi-tropical climate, an open bay, feeding into a mid-size city.

In a perfect world, I would divide my time living and working between small apartments in St. Petersburg, FL and a community on the western coast of Italy. I have a lot of ambivalence about home ownership or land ownership, so I am often listening in to what it can mean to “settle” somewhere. As clear as I am about landscape, I’m not there yet in terms of residence.

Walking has long been a part of your creative process. Tell us more about this. Even as a young girl, I would go outside with my notebook. I remember sitting under azalea bushes as a kind of sacred imaginative act – there is a short poem that appears in the first little notebook I have even about azaleas. To some degree it is about finding a place of true privacy, not only to go inward without interruption, although certainly that plays into it, but to be able to connect outward in a more sacred way than I often feel I can do in domestic and professional spaces.

In college, the walking became pitched, sometimes to extremes as I processed grief. Yet during these years, too, I learned how to journal more intentionally and I began to notice how intertwined the early part of my writing process, the germination and early drafting, was with my physical experiences, both in terms of walking, dancing, and physiologically, particularly with my menstrual cycle.

As I’ve lived with that awareness more, and traveled with it more, the walking as personal practice and as creative practice is as much about being in this human-sized, human-shaped form on the largeness of the earth. Along the way to any vista there are surprises, messages and interruptions outside of myself that help me hear and see what I am thinking and wanting to share. Often I’ll pause at a halfway point on a long walk, sit in some make-shift spot, and journal. Then as I turn to walk back to where I live, I begin reworking by memory parts of what I wrote in order to listen to what surfaces, what sticks and stays, what starts to turn or is too thin to hold.

I believe in the neuroscience of walking as a creative practice, too, to engage the whole body as a writing instrument, to be the whole person, and not to compress the spine and truncate the nervous system by sitting down. And then there are the gifts of the sky and the sun.

Sometimes there is a stronger element, too, of female liberation. Long walks are a way of exercising freedom and not being available to, or resisting, the social order and the domestic expectations of contemporary life. The history of the limitations on women walking is well documented in Rebecca Solnit’s Wanderlust, and more recently Flâneuse by Lauren Elkin. I think my walking is less flânerie as it is less about being seen; I am not presenting myself as an urban, visible walker, and I usually am not consuming culture either.

Tell us about your current or recent writing. The material I will be reading from at First Person Plural has a working title of Simple Medicines. It is work I began last summer at cultural studies seminars in Rome on the Italian Diaspora, and then found the central vocabulary and metaphors for the project when I traveled immediately following those seminars to Salerno to visit what remains of the botanical gardens of the historic Salerno Medical School. I will return to southern Italy this summer, in Calabria, for a short series of writing workshops punctuated with anthropological visits and look forward to layering an even more southern Italian context to the material.

On the academic side, it has been good this last year to have collaborated with two other scholars to produce a special issue of the journal Feminist Teacher exploring dimensions of performance and pedagogy. My own scholarly writing currently is focused on the ethics of participatory art and the possibility and limitations of cultural healing in public performances such as the AIDS Memorial Quilt, Ruth Sergel’s art action Chalk that commemorates the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire, and Anna Halprin’s Planetary Dances.

What has Harlem meant to you? When do you remember first knowing of Harlem? Teaching in Jacksonville – and it is increasingly important to me to say I do not live in Jacksonville, the word, the history of that name and Andrew Jackson’s role in the Indian removals bring me pain whenever I have to write it – but the cultural highway between Jacksonville and Harlem had its significant moment in the early part of the 20th century. James Weldon Johnson wrote “Lift Ev’ry Voice and Sing” in Jacksonville (where he was born) for an event in 1900 at Stanton High School which still offer classes under the same name. Norman Studios launched a notable number of silent black films before Hollywood was established as a film center, and then Zora Neale Hurston spent different spells of time in Jacksonville. Many of the films produced by Norman Studios featured all-black casts appearing in positive, non-stereotypical roles, including the film The Flying Ace based the life of Bessie Coleman. There are pockets in present-day Jacksonville where this cultural connection is remembered, yet many where it is not. Perhaps Harlem probably doesn’t think much about Jacksonville these days, but there is a continuum running up and down I-95 for us to tap into when we want to remember it.

It’s 2019. What gives you hope? What gives you pause? Hope is not a word that feels close I’m afraid. I don’t feel despairing or pessimistic, but I feel firmly in a period of short term, or maybe seasonal is a more poetic way to put it, approach to understanding the world. Hope feels bigger than I dare imagine lately.

Where I have found moments of hope are in quiet exchanges between women where I feel or experience one or more of us going deeper in our energy reserves to help each other out even as it seems there is little left to give. When I was hiking up the hillside into San Cipriano Picentino last summer (the town the Masturzos are from), and near the edge of what one of my ankles could bear, a middle-aged woman stopped in her citron green hatchback to give me a ride the last few minutes of the way. “Le donne aiutano le donne,” I managed to say, correctly I think. Women help women. And she squealed with delight and squeezed my knee. It was so simple and perhaps others experience that kind of human kindness in a thousand different ways, but I am noticing it most often now between women and perhaps noticing our tiredness as much as the stretching to reach each other.

Saying that I also want to say I appreciate the real, quality conversations with my father (and my mother), but elsewhere in my small circle of living, whether it is my generation, my place of work, my location, there seems to be a real absence of presence of men leaning in to the shared work of our greatest challenges. Sometimes I can hold space for what I hope must be happening below the surface for them, yet I’m not seeing the effort of what some would call the shadow work necessary for us to lift the lid off of the cultural habits that hold us back. I like to think that is happening elsewhere and I simply haven’t witnessed the best of the transformation work I know people are doing in the world and with themselves.

What American crises keep you up at night? Honestly what I spend the most mental energy trying to unlock lately is what I might call a crisis of discourse, of critical thinking and wise speaking from that thought. The mental and narrative frames (and visual, too) we often use to communicate with each other seem incomplete to allow us to listen fully and to discover what community spaces we most need next. I think also about what acts of convening, how to gather and regather people so that we can genuinely unlock the patterns that have limited us and oppressed many, and then let those patterns go. Perhaps those crises are human and not only American, yet I do think about them in particularly American forms.

Is there a piece of writing– yours or someone else’s–that really speaks to your experiences these days? Layli Long Soldier’s Whereas, specifically the poems “Whereas” and “38” that precedes it in the volume. There is an attentive teaching in those poems to me, a carefulness of reading and of critique, as well as an exacting presence and immediacy to seeing and seeing through the complexity of our history now. She has spoken about her care in naming and witnessing historical violences, truthfully without nostalgia, and I find great teaching in her work on the particularity of her subject and also the approach more broadly.

What should the future be? Easier.

Easier for others. I am not sure that it will be. We often get in the way of helping ourselves.

When do you feel most “we”? When do you feel most “I”? The most meaningful “we” experiences I have had were during contact improvisations or related group improvisational dance work. What makes these experiences possible is usually they are led into with deep personal movement practice, a coming into awareness of the body-self-world beingness of that time gathering together. The “we” becomes more available when each participating “I” has taken the time and space to clear their intentions, align with the group purpose, and show up fully. It was extremely potent being in group improv on the outdoor deck at Anna Halprin’s Mountain Studio in San Rafael, California. By the end of the week, in an unrehearsed improv, I shared a powerful moment of both movement and sounding with a Barcelona-based Maori performer that felt to me at least to channel the pain of land displacement across continents. It was almost to powerful to stay with and I know only could come through because of the quality of the field, the site where we were and the intentions she and I both brought to that week. Our overlap found each other and amplified, and then was supported and witnessed by others which moved it beyond either the personal or the arts friendship we shared.

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Dancing with Tamar (and Peter) on the Mountain Home Studio deck during a Tamalpa Institute workshop with Anna Halprin.

Dance is the place where it happens most readily I think. Perhaps theater and it’s collaboration broadly, but I think dance even more so because it is less verbal. I think too of dance making after Women’s March with friend and colleague Rebecca Levy, who teaches at the college where I work and is the Artistic Director of Jacksonville Dance Theatre where it is a joy to serve on the Board. We actually did not set out to create a dance about Women’s March, but the walking and protest movements showed up in the movement phrases she, then I, and then the students we worked with brought to the choreographic improv sessions that happened just following the first Women’s March. We all just kept saying “yes” and there we were by the end with a “March of the Snowflakes.” By the time that dance arrive to tech rehearsal, the (male) tech manager, too, was joining in with the performative rule-breaking that dance became about and he suggested the ending needed a confetti canon.  Perhaps not a dance that will be remembered in the history of choreography, but it was a wonderful dance of that cultural moment the audience responded to viscerally and positively – a great reminder of what happens when an unknown “we” begins to drive and the “I” gets out of the way.

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Dancing with Tamar (and Peter) on the Mountain Home Studio deck during a Tamalpa Institute workshop with Anna Halprin.

Do you have any trouble with “we”? Sure, I definitely struggle with “we.” It can be extremely frustrating and disappointing to begin to enter what seems like a “we” project to then find oneself tangling with a cobweb of “I” energies. The “I” still leads in most arenas, even when we think we are inviting the “we” in. A couple summers ago I was part of a hosting team for an event designed to engage artists, activists and community developers around the concept of “creating collective healing spaces.” The idea was to offer a deep dive workshop to co-teach from different areas of expertise devoted to calling people together to work on cultural issues and group tensions. Wow. Some great threads emerged yet it was also a heavy ego ride for many involved. When I check myself, I think I resist the “we” most when I sense (correctly or not) the purpose of the “we” has been disrupted or needs to be renegotiated. That is part of why I am so interested the ethics of participatory art. I haven’t figured out how to invite as fully as I’d like the shape of projects that are more centered in the “we” and I hope I can do that in the second half of my life. I know it’s where some of the most surprising and transformative creating can happen.

Who are writers that we should be reading right now? Layli Long Soldier I mentioned earlier and recommend highly. I also am reading in conversation the works of Richard Blanco, Natasha Tretheway, and Tracy K. Smith. What’s helpful to me is to listening to them and between their voices for the bicultural realities that are and are emerging around us, and which are instructive to name.

For academics looking to rethink the university, I recommend reading The Slow Professor: Challenging the Culture of Speed in the Academy by Maggie Berg and Barbara K.Seeber, and anything on decolonizing the university. I’m finding the small volume A Third University Is Possible by la paperson (K. Wayne Yang) particularly helpful to carry around as an antidote to the forces of the academy.

What advice would you give emerging writers today? Honor your “No.”

Believe in your own timeline. We can push ourselves and use discernment when not to push or not to push in a traditional pattern. There can be a kind of press and chase dynamic that conferences and contests and residency applications – job applications – create for emerging writers and this dynamic can start to feel all-encompassing. It is OK to step out of that especially if you are stepping into your own path. I also think it’s helpful to actively value other mediums as sources of insight on process and form.

Is there something I didn’t ask you that you’d like to share? Coming into the reading, I am thinking about the tension I sometimes am aware of between the written and spoken word, the embodied poem and the printed poem. It is a gift leaning into that tension in a specific way, and I think I will always feel it, not uncomfortably but it does seem never to resolve itself.

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The Fellows of the 2018 Italian Diaspora Summer Seminars at Universitá Roma Tre with The Calandra Institute (CUNY) as featured in a local Roman newspaper.

 

 Photos by Holly Masturzo.

 

FPP Interview: Chaya Bhuvaneswar

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In the FPP Interview with author Chaya Bhuvaneswar, whose book WHITE DANCING ELEPHANTS was a finalist for the PEN/Robert W. Bingham Prize for Debut Short Story Collection, we hear how going to Hunter College High School dissuaded her from allowing others to arrange her marriage, how her stories stopped boring her once she stopped “whit[ing] out” her race, her guidance for emerging writers, and much more. Come to Silvana on Sunday, April 28th to hear Bhuvaneswar read with Jericho BrownVeronica LiuHolly Masturzo, Willie Perdomo, and Alexandra Watson. Admission is free. See you at 6pm!

In your short story collection WHITE DANCING ELEPHANTS, you center the dreams and crises of women, and do so without apology. How did you first know you wanted to tell these kinds of stories? It’s interesting that a common thread among women writers of color I know or have read about is that we all started with some type of engagement with “white stories.” One of the earliest characters I ever wrote about was a white fantasized man who played classical guitar and lived in a house on a cliff with me. His name was Christopher. I wrote out many permutations of the life we made together and stopped when I realized how much it bored me to tell stories that “whited out” my own. I.e. in this Christopher story, what made it boring was that I, the telling narrator, had no race or identity or past. And writing in English, this allowed the reader to assume I was white, too.

I was very young, like age eleven or twelve, when I started writing “those Christopher stories”. But it actually took many years before I understood how frequently I “whited out” descriptions of my experience, my family’s, my community’s — and how exciting and alive the writing could be once I stopped doing that. So writing that centers the experiences and perceptions of women of color — for me it’s the equivalent of “going where the money is” — going toward what’s most alive and identifiable as “me” and necessary for me to have written and not anyone else. That said, it is now so different to write stories with only white protagonists, like the story “In Allegheny” in the collection, in which Indian-Americans feature so peripherally. There’s engagement of white characters with various Others; there’s a sense of common humanity as earned from a process of engagement.

Screen Shot 2019-03-13 at 10.47.23 PMIs there something you wish you could tell your readers that they don’t learn from the book? Don’t ever fully give up on any story or idea. Move from one thing to another if you need to but keep a shard that you might come back to and expand differently.

You are a practicing physician. Tell us about storytelling in medicine, in your medicine.The meanings of various experiences — so central to medicine and the practice of medicine as a fundamentally human and connecting activity rather than a series of steps that could just as well be carried out by a machine. Meaning is bound up with story, in medicine, and a patient’s story can only be understood by spending time, and this is the challenge every day. To be efficient so the whole system of care can do what it has to, while at the same time communicating on an individual level that we have all the time we need, that we have space for the story to be opened, to be revealed, to be shared. I think that is one of the most beautiful aspects of medicine – the way that with time you learn to use your time in a completely different way than at the beginning. Not necessarily linear or predictable. Connection can happen when it’s not clear how it would.

It’s 2019. What gives you hope? What gives you pause? A politics of hate isn’t comforting for the long term. I have to believe that and seeing people organize, march, vote (including voting the most diverse Congress into power, in history) makes me believe it in my heart. No one can find it sustaining to just hate. At the end everyone wants to be able to have good healthcare, a reasonably doable job that allows for stable housing and childcare. Everyone wants their work and livelihood to sustain the ability to love and demonstrate love to people closest to them. Even if they construct that world so that everyone close to them is the same color or religion. The politics of hate at the cold, shriveled heart of the current administration hasn’t given people comfort or sustainability. We’re hard-wired as a species to eventually figure that out and rise up against anything that harms us this much.

What American crises keeps you up at night? Healthcare – access to medicines. There are really concerning shortages, as well as problems getting life sustaining meds like insulin. Puerto Rico’s recovery being so slowed by inaction by the President. The fact that there still isn’t clean water in Flint. Police violence and brutality, some of the victims of which are police officers of color. There’s preventable strife and a sense of the gloating cruelty just moving too fast to be stopped all at once. But we have to keep taking deep breaths and approach each crisis really methodically and confidently. We know it doesn’t have to be like this and we are going to solve it. We have to keep that mindset.

Is there a piece of writing– yours or someone else’s–that really speaks to your experiences these days? Jericho’s poems. Nicole Sealey’s poems. Your journalism.

What should the future be? Hopeful, decent, unafraid.

When do you feel most “we”? When do you feel most “I”? I think at some of the readings; always when I’m with family; and I feel the most I probably when I sit down to write. Flaws and all!

Do you have any trouble with the “we”? Not so far, but that may because I gave myself a lot of freedom when I escaped having an arranged marriage and everything since has felt free.

Tell us about your Harlem. I went to high school in Harlem. I took the subway to 96th and Lexington each day and enjoyed walking on morning streets full of people who were all shades of brown.

What was your first knowledge of Harlem? Getting into Hunter, taking the train to go to school, walking around, realizing there was a big world and I was going to get to be out in it once I determined I would not have an arranged marriage as I’d been expected to do.

Who are writers that we should be reading right now? Tyrese Coleman’s HOW TO SIT, which was short listed for the PEN Open Book award; Vanessa Angelica Villareal, whose debut poetry collection was really beautiful, and for which she just received a Whiting Award. Alexander Chee, all his interviews about writing and his essays. Walter Mosley. Sandra Cisneros. Bharati Mukherjee.

What advice would you give emerging writers today? Don’t try to predict when you will “break through” but just make a comprehensive list of everything you think you can do toward that goal and then just do it without worrying about whether any of it will work. I.e. if you think submitting 300 pieces of writing per year via Submittable will help you publish at least 30, do it. Commit.

Is there something I didn’t ask you that you’d like to share? So thrilled to be part of the First Person Plural Reading Series and feel so grateful too that within literary community, I have found my tribe.

FPP Interview: Willie Perdomo

Screen Shot 2019-03-09 at 2.58.55 PMIn the FPP Interview with poet Willie Perdomo, whose new book of poems THE CRAZY BUNCH (Penguin Poets, 2019) was just published this month, we hear about his Harlems, his hopes, and his love of “we as broken as colonization has made us,” among other topics. Come to Silvana on Sunday, April 28th to hear Perdomo read with Chaya Bhuvaneswar, Jericho Brown, Veronica Liu, Holly Masturzo, and Alexandra Watson. Admission is free. See you at 6pm!

Screen Shot 2019-03-13 at 10.38.53 PMFrom Where a Nickel Costs a Dime to The Crazy Bunch, you’ve claimed your glorious space on the Harlem map. Tell us about your Harlems. If you came up to Mt. Morris Park to hear the drumming, did it feel like border crossing?  No, it felt like a homecoming.  The only border seemed to be 96th St.  My Harlems speak two languages and has a double-swag; it can also hang out all night.

You live and work in New Hampshire. Where is home for you now? How do you know this?  Home is where my family lives.  But my family is extended.  This new book has been very much like homecoming.  When your boys show up at a book party, you have to do away with all pretension.

In the poem “Ghost Face” you write “no use in total recall’. In 2019, are there topics or people you know you’ve forgotten, or that you write around on purpose? [Why or why not?]  There is purposefulness to forgetting, for sure.  But I’m not writing around as much as I’m writing to.

David Tomas Martinez’s “Post Traumatic Hood Disorder” gets a nod in these pages. PTHD feels present in these poems. Same for survivor’s remorse. Do you feel this in your everyday life? Or does the writing heal?  David’s book set up a new category of trauma that some of us might have seen as normal.  But I would never put pressure on the writing to heal.  Expand, maybe.

What is your language of tenderness? Does this change?  Joy infused with humor, reflection, and compassion.

It’s 2019. What gives you hope? What gives you pause?  HOPE: My wife’s memoir. My two sons who are holding on to their respective dreams, and my 5 year-old daughter who can quote Cardi B.  PAUSE: the role that fear is playing in our collective psyche.

What American crises keeps you up at night?  Growing militias.

You brought poets together for multiple events to raise money and awareness for Puerto Rico post-Hurricane Maria. What have you learned in the aftermath? Is there anything that surprised you? About raising money or bring poets together?  In the instance of the first #PoetsforPuertoRico event, I discovered that Pablo Neruda was right: Poetry is truly like bread.

Screen Shot 2019-04-24 at 2.24.08 PMIs there a piece of writing– yours or someone else’s–that really speaks to your experiences these days?  Ray Baretto’s Together

What should the future be?  Whatever it promises not to be.

When do you feel most “we”? When do you feel most “I”?  When I’m uptown.

Do you have any trouble with the “we”?  Love the “we” as broken as colonization has made us.  But that should be a preferred pronoun, no?  We.

Who are writers that we should be reading right now?  Cynthia Oka, Javier Zamora, Cortney Lamar Charleston, Joseph Rios, John Murillo, Aracelis Girmay, Andres Cerpa, Raquel Salas Rivera, and I could go on…

What advice would you give emerging writers today?  Read.  And then read some more.

The First Person Plural Season Finale Will Amaze and Delight!

Join us on April 28th at Silvana for what promises to be a very special night featuring writers and exceptional literary citizens Chaya Bhuvaneswar, Jericho Brown, Veronica Liu, Holly Masturzo, Willie Perdomo, and Alexandra Watson. Brown and Perdomo will be celebrating the release of their new books of poems The Tradition and The Crazy Bunch respectively. Word Up Books is our official bookseller for the night. Plan to be with us Sunday, April 28th  at Silvana in Harlem from 6:00pm-8:00pm. 300 W 116th St (SW corner of 116th and Frederick Douglass Blvd). The First Person Plural Reading Series is hosted by Stacy Parker Le MelleAdmission is free! There will be cake! Here is more information about our stellar readers:

IMG_6004_high resChaya Bhuvaneswar is a practicing physician and writer whose work has appeared or is forthcoming in Narrative Magazine, Tin House, Electric Lit, The Rumpus, The Millions, Joyland, largehearted boy, Chattahoochee Review, Michigan Quarterly Review, The Awl, jellyfish review, aaduna and elsewhere, with poetry in Cutthroat, sidereal, Natural Bridge, apt magazine, Hobart, Ithaca Lit, Quiddity and elsewhere. Her poetry and prose juxtapose Hindu epics, other myths and histories, and the survival of sexual harassment and racialized sexual violence by diverse women of color. In addition to the Dzanc Books Short Story Collection prize under which her debut collection White Dancing Elephants was released in October 2018, she recently received a MacDowell Colony Fellowship and a Henfield award for her writing. Her work received several Pushcart Prize anthology nominations this year as well as a Joy Harjo Poetry Contest prize. Follow her on Twitter at @chayab77 including for upcoming readings and events.
jb-6-1Jericho Brown is the recipient of a Whiting Writers’ Award and fellowships from the John Simon Guggenheim Foundation, the Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study at Harvard University, and the National Endowment for the Arts. Brown’s first book, Please (2008), won the American Book Award. His second book, The New Testament (2014), won the Anisfield-Wolf Book Award and was named one of the best of the year by Library Journal, Coldfront, and the Academy of American Poets. He is also the author of the collection The Tradition (2019). His poems have appeared in Buzzfeed, The Nation, The New York Times, The New Yorker, The New Republic, Time, and The Pushcart Prize Anthology, and several volumes of The Best American Poetry anthologies. He is an associate professor and the director of the Creative Writing Program at Emory University in Atlanta.

VeronicaLiu_photoVeronica Liu is a writer and editor, and her writing, comics, photography, and silkscreen prints have been published in Broken Pencil, Quick Fiction, In/Context, Mom Egg Review, We’ll Never Have Paris and other journals and zines. She has been involved in community arts organizing for 24 years, most recently as founder and general coordinator of the 60-person collective that operates Word Up Community Bookshop/Librería Comunitaria in Washington Heights. The cofounder of an online radio station and the community publisher Fractious Press, Veronica has received individual grants for writing, the development of an arts and music fair, a video series, and various publishing projects. Prior to becoming Word Up’s first (and, still, only) paid staff member, she was a contributing editor at Seven Stories Press, where she worked as managing then senior editor for more than a decade.

IMG_5416A recipient of an Established Artist Fellowship from the Houston Arts Alliance, Holly Masturzo’s writing has appeared in Voices of Italian Americana, Ars Medica, Third Mind: Creative Writing & Visual Art, and The Alphabet of the Trees: A Guide to Nature Writing and has been performed at a variety of sites including museums and on the radio. She is Professor of Humanities and Women’s Studies at Florida State College and serves on the Board of Directors of the Jacksonville Dance Theater.

Screen Shot 2019-03-09 at 2.58.55 PMWillie Perdomo is the author of The Crazy Bunch (Penguin Poets, 2019) The Essential Hits of Shorty Bon Bon (Penguin Poets, 2014), a finalist for the National Book Critics Circle Award and winner of the International Latino Book Award; Smoking Lovely (Rattapallax, 2004), winner of the PEN Open Book Award, and Where a Nickel Costs a Dime (Norton, 1996), a finalist for the Poetry Society of America Norma Farber First Book Award. His work has appeared in The New York Times Magazine, The Norton Anthology of Latino Literature, Poetry, Bomb Magazine, and African Voices. He is currently a Lucas Arts Program Literary Fellow and teaches English at Phillips Exeter Academy.

EAqom1aUMaLUvGHTTscoU-ujq4ipVt3x5NchGJbJ8jrFaMIMh6_fAhJUXdPNE-t15hRXR4_8w2ny8SDoPp49tcfI9GiAhNWXEBiAf640VjMLm7OlOC4kQs5GnhywjNTZdE8HNe0f7Vw89JgwMEPHmn-Db081QAAYFkQ=s0-d-e1-ftAlexandra Watson is the executive editor of Apogee Journal, where she has secured grant funding for community arts projects from the New York State Council on the Arts and the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council. She is a full-time Lecturer in the English department at Barnard College. Her fiction, poetry, and interviews have appeared in Nat. Brut., Redivider, PANK, Lit Hub, and Apogee. She’s the recipient of the 2019 PEN/Nora Magid Prize for Literary Magazine editing.

 

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FPP Interview: Vanessa K. Valdés

AVQ6XXce4_b7Wav1dCqBNUZCEnlvmfxzvUKVCHph650 (1) (1)(1)In the second FPP Interview with Dr. Vanessa K. Valdés, who is now the director of the Black Studies Program at City College-CUNY, we talk about her earliest religious experiences, how men and women can find freedom, and what she wished she heard as a young academic, among other topics. Come to Silvana on Sunday, February 17th (today!) to hear Dr. Vanessa K. Valdés read with Amanda Alcántara, Tyehimba Jess, and Jacinda Townsend. Admission is free. See you at 6pm!

Oshun's DaughtersIn your book Oshun’s Daughters: The Search for Womanhood in America, you examine African religious practices as represented in creative works of Black women of the diaspora. Could you tell us about your first encounters with religion and spirituality? What inspired you to start researching connections between women’s lives, religious practice, and stories told? I grew up Catholic: I attended Catholic schools from first grade to twelfth grade, and participated in Mass as a singer in choir from fifth grade onward and as a reader from seventh grade. I remember my mother teaching me the “Our Father” as a child, and then begin shocked that everybody knew the words when we went to the first Christmas Mass I remember. Religion, and ritual, have been with me from then; the break for me with the Catholic Church began when I realized I could not ascend its hierarchy, that the only place for me would be as a nun. I had begun participating as a singer and as a reader in order to stop boredom that would encroach when I was listening to a priest drone on.

When I went to college, I stopped singing – and had a miserable time. When I returned my second year, I quickly joined the Gospel Choir – and  I felt better again, and understood how intimately I needed prayer in my life, particularly when it was in the form of singing. That was also when I understood the need for developing my spiritual life – for me, while there is some sense of comfort in Catholic ritual, it’s more a sense of muscle memory than it is actual nurturance.

In Gospel Choir I read the Bible for myself, and developed a relationship with it myself; and then began reading mystical texts from other traditions. In graduate school, I wrote a dissertation that reflected my grappling with womanhood and what it would mean for me, what kind of woman I wanted to be, in this society, at this time. Oshun’s Daughters grows out of that – literally I had begun noticing the invocations to nature that these women writers across the hemisphere were doing, and then paid more attention and understood that they were invoking a whole spiritual system that remains outside of Christian understandings of the world, one that would make so much sense to me, to my upbringing as a woman of African descent born to Puerto Rican parents in New York City. These spiritual systems – Lucumí, Vodou, Espiritismo, Obeah, Roots work, Juju – may not be available for public discussion, and yet they have undergirded our Black communities across the hemisphere for centuries, have ensured our survival.

What do these stories teach us about women and resistance? So much knowledge comes from that which cannot be quantified sometimes. Spirit defies logic, defies Descartes’s maxim, I think therefore I am. What if I feel? And I depend on that feeling, that intuition, to guide me? This means trusting myself, my deepest instincts, my needs and wants – all of which goes against a socialization that dictates that women should put everyone ahead of themselves. What does privileging myself mean? And how does that translate to how I care for those around me, for the community I create? These stories show women facing and negotiating with all of those questions.

Where can women find freedom? Where can men?  Both women and men can find freedom in spirit, in love, in light, in each other – it’s something that needs to be actively sought after and cultivated, in a society that seems determined to continue breaking us, mentally, physically, spiritually, emotionally. There are the political realities with which we all live – this administration continues in the tradition of the worst that this country offers, in terms of its genocidal impulse, its misogyny and homophobia and transphobia. Words related to racism and systemic racism continue to lose power, as those who offer sustained critique about how all these hatreds work together get lost in the overwhelming noise of the denials and misdirections about who’s a racist, what’s a racist. So we have to dare to love, to allow ourselves moments of joy, to seek peace, to celebrate ourselves and each other, to be grateful for all that is beautiful and positive in our lives. That is our humanity. This country is literally built on reducing all of us to rubble, to dust, to render us machinery to be disposed of – we resist in our everyday insistence on living, in making mistakes and correcting them, asking for and finding forgiveness, in making space for each other, in encouraging each other, giving each other permission to live in the best way we each know how, teaching, learning, together.

What is your language of tenderness? Does this change? I love this question. I try, in every space I enter, to move in love as best I can. Love as praxis. While we often focus in on romantic love when we use that word, I mean everything that comes with it: kindness, gentleness, empathy. Gratitude. Being grateful for someone holding the door open for you – or someone waiving the dollar fine at the library. I smile, and laugh, a great deal, and try as best I can to stay in peace, grounded in myself, in my body. The older I’ve gotten, I realize that I give gifts to people I care about, just cause – it doesn’t have to be anything big, but something that expresses my appreciation for that person. In all realms of my life, I want to make sure I hear people who cross my path, make sure to communicate that I’ve seen and heard them. I don’t always succeed, but I make a valiant effort. Finally, I talk and write words of tenderness – I try to, anyway (smiling).

When did you know you must learn Portuguese? This happened in graduate school – I knew I wanted to be a Latin Americanist rather than a Peninsularist (these were the two large specialties if you were studying Spanish. And I had the good fortune of meeting Earl E. Fitz at Vanderbilt, who said that if I was going to study Latin America that I needed to learn about Brazil in addition to the rest of the continent. Cacilda Rêgo, a carioca who had just finished her dissertation, spoke a Portuguese that sounded like a Caribbean Spanish to my ear – and that was another turning point for me, because I knew that what the regions had in common were large populations of African descent. That began my study of Brazilian literature, history, and culture.

Who is doing interesting research now? I’m really excited by work that I’m blessed to learn about, mostly through social media, quite frankly. Brittney C. Cooper has rightfully gotten attention for her book Eloquent Rage, but her Beyond Respectability is a serious call to action to be more serious in our study of our intellectual Black foremothers. Anne Eller has written a book, We Dream Together, that forces us to reconsider how Dominican history is told, once you shift perspective from the elite living in a capital and pay attention to others around the country, particularly those living closer to the Haitian border. Yomaira Figueroa is doing tremendous work on shifting how we understand Latinx literature and culture by including Equatorial Guinea in the mix as the only country on the African continent colonized by the Spanish, and one about which many people know nothing. I cannot underscore the necessity of Jessica M. Johnson’s work centering the lives and efforts of Black women in freedom struggles in this hemisphere, and the expansiveness of her studies in the digital realm, on Tumbler. Omaris Zamora completed a dissertation and is working on a book emphasizing the role of spirit as an impetus for knowledge production for Black Dominican women, which I’m excited to learn more about. Out on the West Coast Alejandro Villalpando is doing a great deal in making more space for Central American Studies and the afro-indigenous realities of the region – a space which we ignored when I was in graduate school. April J. Mayes continues to do important work honoring Dominican and Haitian history and activism, and is a leader in thinking of the island of Hispaniola transnationally. Closer to home, Jorge J. Rodríguez V is writing on the legacies of the Young Lords here in the New York City. There’s such amazing work out there being created, I’m looking forward to learning more from them.

DB CoverYou’ve recently been named director of the Black Studies Program at City College – CUNY. Tell us about your vision. Two years ago now SUNY Press published my book about Arturo Alfonso Schomburg, a man who, among many things, wrote an essay called “The Negro Digs Up His Past,” which has been interpreted by many to be a call for the creation of Black Studies as an academic discipline. I am humbled by the opportunity to carry out this call at The City College of New York, a school that was already the university on the hill in Schomburg’s time and in his neighborhood. More than anything, I want to center our students and assist them in reaching their primary goal of graduating; I want to make that process easier by highlighting all that our school has to offer, i.e. scholarships and fellowships and opportunities that many think are beyond them because they come from working class backgrounds. I want to celebrate our faculty who put in long hours in not only teaching our students but also in mentoring and guiding them, showing them what is possible. And I want to strengthen the school’s relationship with Harlem by bringing attention to the collaborations that already exist between our students and our faculty and all of the Harlems that surround us, river to river, and also by creating programs with our community partners.

I recently heard Brazilian civil rights activist Luana Génot speak of encountering Black Americans who didn’t immediately see the value of engaging across countries, that there’s too many problems here to contend with, but she countered that we can learn from one another.  Do you ever encounter these kinds of attitudes inside or outside of the academy, and if so, how do you respond? I was trained hemispherically, meaning that in my research, I am attending to the details of lives and cultures of more than one geographical site in this hemisphere. This is why the word “diaspora” comes up so often in my work, because our narratives – of migration, exile, enslavement – they bypass national boundaries. Before any nation in this hemisphere claimed us, we were African and of African descent. I recently gave a session at the Schomburg for the Junior Scholars’ 2019 Black Teen Lives Matter – and there I highlighted our long Black histories of activism in Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, and Chile, with mentions of Argentina, Uruguay, Puerto Rico, and Spain. Looking beyond the frames of nation-state allows you to see the similarities of how white supremacy works, and also our histories of dealing with it. We have been here a very long time – this too, all of this, is America.

What words does every young academic of color need to hear? What words did you wish you heard when you started your first research? Find your peoples. Find the people who love you, no matter what — irrespective of what you got on that paper, the hours you’re spending in the library, in the lab. Hold on to them tightly – tell them they mean something to you. Pay attention to those who see more in you than you see in yourself and trust their words. Try to lower the volume on your own fears and doubts and at least look at the path that they are highlighting for you. Celebrate every. single. thing you finish – read that article? A moment’s joy. Underlined something? Prepped that class? Finished that abstract? Submitted it? Dance! Breathe. Take a moment. REST. You are doing this! Focus on all that you are doing and not the list that still needs to get done. Focus on your own abundance. Take care of yourself – if you have to go to therapy, do that. Talk to someone. There’s no shame in this. Don’t feel guilty for being human – for wanting love, sex, to grieve, to feel. Please be happy. It is possible. Be good to yourself, and when you have a chance, pass the baton to the ones coming up behind you.​

 

Join Us in Harlem on Sunday, February 17th at Silvana!

Welcome to the First Person Plural’s seventh year of showcasing literary and artistic excellence in Harlem, USA! Our next reading features authors Amanda Alcántara, Tyehimba JessJacinda Townsend, and Vanessa K. Valdés on Sunday, February 17th at Silvana in Harlem from 6:00pm-8:00pm. 300 W 116th St (SW corner of 116th and Frederick Douglass Blvd). The First Person Plural Reading Series is hosted by Stacy Parker Le MelleAdmission is free! There will be cake! Here is more information about our stellar readers:

Amanda Shoot by E.Abreu Visuals 10-2014 (2)Amanda Alcántara is a writer and journalist. She is the Digital Media Editor at Futuro Media Group. Her work centers on various themes including Caribbean culture, womanhood, borders and blackness. She has been published on Latino USA, Remezcla, Latino Voices and Black Voices on The Huffington Post, The Washington Post’s The Lily, BESE, and The San Francisco Chronicle. In May of 2017, Amanda obtained a Master of Arts from NYU in Latin American and Caribbean Studies where her thesis focused on the experience of women residing on the border of the Dominican Republic and Haiti. Amanda is also a Co-Founder and previous editor of La Galería Magazine. She has also been published in the anthology Latinas: Struggles & Protests in 21st Century USA, published by Red Sugarcane Press. She has a BA from Rutgers University. A map of the world turned upside down hangs on her wall.

Screen Shot 2019-02-04 at 9.38.13 AMTyehimba Jess is the author of two books of poetry, Leadbelly and OlioOlio won the 2017 Pulitzer Prize, the Anisfield-Wolf Book Award, The Midland Society Author’s Award in Poetry, and received an Outstanding Contribution to Publishing Citation from the Black Caucus of the American Library Association.  It was also nominated for the National Book Critics Circle Award, the PEN Jean Stein Book Award, and the Kingsley Tufts Poetry Award.  Leadbelly was a winner of the 2004 National Poetry Series. The Library Journal and Black Issues Book Review both named it one of the “Best Poetry Books of 2005.”

Jess, a Cave Canem and NYU Alumni, received a 2004 Literature Fellowship from the National Endowment for the Arts, and was a 2004–2005 Winter Fellow at the Provincetown Fine Arts Work Center. Jess is also a veteran of the 2000 and 2001 Green Mill Poetry Slam Team, and won a 2000–2001 Illinois Arts Council Fellowship in Poetry, the 2001 Chicago Sun-Times Poetry Award, and a 2006 Whiting Fellowship. He presented his poetry at the 2011 TedX Nashville Conference and won a 2016 Lannan Literary Award in Poetry. He received a Guggenheim fellowship in 2018. Jess is a Professor of English at College of Staten Island.

Jess’ fiction and poetry have appeared in many journals, as well as anthologies such as Angles of Ascent: A Norton Anthology of Contemporary African American PoetryBeyond The Frontier: African American Poetry for the Twenty-First Century, Role Call: A Generational Anthology of Social and Political Black Literature and Art, Bum Rush the Page: A Def Poetry Jam, Power Lines: Ten Years of Poetry from Chicago’s Guild Complex, and Slam: The Art of Performance Poetry.

Gides_Jacinda_PP-1005-(ZF-10165-89257-1-001)(2)Jacinda Townsend is the author of Saint Monkey (Norton, 2014), which is set in 1950’s Eastern Kentucky and won the Janet Heidinger Kafka Prize and the James Fenimore Cooper Prize for historical fiction.  Saint Monkey was also the 2015 Honor Book of the Black Caucus of the American Library Association, and was longlisted for the Flaherty-Dunnan First Novel Prize and shortlisted for the Crook’s Corner Book Prize.

Jacinda took her first Creative Writing classes at Harvard, where she received her BA, and then cross-registered to take more classes through the English Department at Duke University, where she received her JD.  After practicing law for four years, she went on to earn an MFA from the Iowa Writers’ Workshop and then spent a year as a Fulbright fellow in Côte d’Ivoire. She recently finished a novel called James Loves Ruth.  Jacinda is mom to two children, about whom she writes frequently.

AVQ6XXce4_b7Wav1dCqBNUZCEnlvmfxzvUKVCHph650 (1) (1)Dr. Vanessa K. Valdés is the director of the Black Studies Program at The City College of New York-CUNY. A graduate of Yale and Vanderbilt Universities, and an Associate Professor of Spanish and Portuguese, her research interests focus on the cultural production of peoples of African descent throughout the Americas: the United States and Latin America, including the Caribbean and Brazil. She is the editor of The Future Is Now: A New Look at African Diaspora Studies (2012) and Let Spirit Speak! Cultural Journeys through the African Diaspora (2012). She is the author of Oshun’s Daughters: The Search for Womanhood in the Americas (2014) and Diasporic Blackness: The Life and Times of Arturo Alfonso Schomburg (2017).

FPP Interview: Vanessa K. Valdés

20181117_220959In this FPP Interview, Dr. Vanessa K. Valdés let’s us walk down the hallway of her childhood Bronx building, shares how as a Black Puerto Rican woman, Arturo Schomburg’s latinidad and his Blackness were not contradictions for her, how her students–many of them are first-generation or are attending school later in life–give her hope for the future. Hear Dr. Vanessa K. Valdés read tonight, November 18th  from 6-8pm at Silvana in Harlem with Ibrahim Abdul-MatinTanya DomiMax S. Gordon, Ruby ShamirJudith Baumel, and Ricardo Hernandez!

As a child, did you have a sense of connection with others beyond your community? When did you develop consciousness of shared Black history and identity throughout the Americas? I grew up in the Bronx, New York, in the tallest buildings in the borough called Tracey Towers. Our next door neighbor, Mrs. Wasserman, was an older Jewish woman who lived alone; another, Jerry, was a Black woman from Louisiana whose husband, Carl, was such a sharp dresser I thought he came out of the movies. Down the hall lived the Robinsons, who were from Jamaica. I say that to say that my community was *always* diverse. We grew up with salsa and R and B, with Essence magazine and Stevie Wonder and Fats Domino and Marvin Gaye on the radio. Blackness – U.S. Blackness – was never foreign to me. And Caribbean Blackness was never foreign to me – there were elders in the building from the Virgin Islands who always asked for my brother and myself; my best friend in high school, her mother was from Barbados. And whiteness wasn’t distant from me either – my elementary school was predominantly Irish Catholic — with many of the parishioners having just come from Ireland — so I grew up with soda bread and corn beef and cabbage and step dancing and singing for St. Patrick’s Day mass and learning that “County” goes in the front of their landmasses, not after. This was my upbringing. It wasn’t until college that I started to have the language to speak about Blackness in Latin America, despite my parents being darker than me and my brother, despite the rhythms of the music that we listened to and the food we ate, all of which have origins on the African continent.

Your recent publication is the biography Diasphoric Blackness: The Life and Times of Arturo Alfonso Schomburg. So many of us know him for his works that led to the creation of Schomburg Center for Reseach in Black Culture. Tell us why you were attracted to his story, and why you centered his Black-Latinx identity.
It was in college that I learned of Arturo Schomburg, and then it was as a man who had a library named after him that was the premier archive for everything related to Blackness. Oh and incidentally, he was born in Puerto Rico. So as a nerd, as a bookworm who had grown up in this city, I thought this was astounding – how could there be a *library* named after a Puerto Rican, and no one knew? And then I saw a picture of him, and he looked familiar to me, like a family member. So he stayed in my mind as someone who I would research maybe, one day. After my book Oshun’s Daughters, was published, I started thinking about how figures such as Katherine Dunham and Zora Neale Hurston had made Vodou more public by including it in their work in the 1930s and 1940s – and I wondered what Mr. Schomburg had to say about that, and so I started reading. And *that’s* when I realized he needed his own book, and realized that part of the issue with him was not that he denied his Puerto Ricanness, but that people in telling his story didn’t know how to integrate it with Blackness — because in Puerto Rico and here, the most prominent Puerto Ricans are white. As a Black Puerto Rican woman, his latinidad and his Blackness were not contradictions for me, and so I set out to write a book that showed how he had been living his afrolatinidad, how everything he did reflected that identity.

How can we break down walls between different Black cultures? One way is to honor and respect the history of African Americans in this country. Toni Morrison once said that anti-Blackness, anti-U.S. Blackness, was a first step to assimilation in this country, and so you find anti U.S. Blackness that is rampant amongst all immigrant communities,  including those from the African continent, the rest of the Americas, and all of the Caribbeans, who many think should “know better.” The reality is that every fight we fight to make these United States a more perfect union builds on fights, legal challenges, civic organizations, secret societies, all launched by U.S. Black men, women, and children. There are no civil rights without first learning and understanding U.S. Black history, and from there learning how the rest of us — Latinx, Asians, gay — how we all build from them.

Who does good work in teaching from the whole diaspora? For me, there is no good work about the whole diaspora without talking about South America and the Hispanic Caribbean. I am tired of seeing work labelled as diasporic and then I see all English-speaking countries and intellectuals represented. Ifeoma Kiddoe Nwankwo was the first person I read who looked at Haiti and its impact on Black populations in the US and Cuba — that was the first time I had seen that grouping, when doing research on Mr. Schomburg. Myriam J.A. Chancy wrote a book on Dominican, Haitian, and Cuban women’s literature, and again, I was struck by that grouping, because it is so rare. Both of them paired Haiti with the Hispanic Caribbean – that was striking to me. For me, actually representing how Black peoples in this hemisphere have lived and produced culture, that is my own goal with regards to my work. There’s so much that needs to be done, that requires studying multiple languages and multiple national histories, but we can do it. Mr. Schomburg himself was doing it. Ntozake Shange, may she rest in peace, she was doing it.

Where is consciousness developing? How can we nurture these connections?
Social media is a space where consciousness is rising, where people are sharing information and learning new things at their fingertips. There are people who have never physically met me or sit in my class, but who may know me from Twitter and then who read my books. Social media is a tremendous advance in terms of the dissemination of information for which people are longing.

It’s 2018. What gives you hope? What gives you pause? My students give me hope – every day I see men and women who are changing their lives. Many are first generation college students; some are non-traditional students who have come back to college in their 30, 40s, and 50, who are making a way for their children. I am inspired by them every single day.

Cynicism gives me pause. Hopelessness gives me pause. On a daily basis, I meet with men and women who have been homeless, or who don’t have food at home, don’t know where their next MetroCard is going to come from, but they hold on to the promise that a college degree is going to mean something in their lives. And they are there, working to get to school. And then I meet PhDs who belittle the lives of these students because they don’t take the time to get to know them. Arrogance gives me pause.

What American crisis keeps you up at night? Hopelessness and willful ignorance, when I think about them too long, can keep me up. White supremacy is embedded in the very fabric of this nation, and it counts on people not being interested in history. This has been the case since enslavement, when it was illegal to teach enslaved peoples to read — which is why literacy is freedom. Education is freedom. Everything that we’re seeing counts on people deliberately applying different standards to white men and women and choosing to uphold white supremacy when they do it. That hypocrisy is more and more apparent – and people are also talking in ways about race and class and sexuality in this country in ways that haven’t been seen in a few decades – which makes me hopeful.

Is there a piece of writing– yours or someone else’s–that really speaks to your experiences these days? I love writers’ essays, particularly those pieces that are beautifully written. Audre Lorde‘s Sister Outsider – I come back to those essays. And every time I see a Lucille Clifton poem, I realize I need to read more of her work.

When do you feel most “we”? When do you feel most “I”? If I’m doing it right, my day, I mean, I feel “we” most of the time. We really are in this together, all of us – trans rights and immigrant children being separated from their parents and voter suppression and the caravan and religious intolerance and DACA — it affects every single one of us. “I” feels like disconnection – like an inculcation of this individualistic ethos that is at the base of the KoolAid we all drink. Growing up, I was taught to be of service to my larger communities – the way I teach, the pieces I write, the histories and literatures I highlight are all meant to illuminate the larger “we.”

Tell us about your Harlem. My Harlem is all of the Harlems – I currently live in Central Harlem, and walk west and there’s Washington Heights and walk east and there’s East Harlem. I love walking these spaces, and passing Little Senegal, and seeing all of our multiple communities.

What was your first knowledge of Harlem? My father was born in El Barrio; my mother, when she came from Puerto Rico with her aunt and uncle, first lived in Loisaida for a brief time before moving up to El Barrio. But I grew up with Showtime at the Apollo being on TV on Saturday night at 1am after SNL – 125th street was a storied street. I can’t remember when I didn’t know about Harlem.

Who are writers that we should be reading right now?
Elizabeth Acevedo and Kiese Laymon and Imani Perry and Hanif Abdurraqib and Alexander Chee and Joel Leon and Peggy Robles Alvarado and Jesmyn Ward and Vanessa Mártir and Marjua Estévez and Walter Thompson Hernández and José Olivarez and Eve Ewing and Ashley Ford and Naiomy Guerrero and Roxane Gay and Nicole Chung and Celeste Ng and Daniel J. Older and Nayyirah Waheed. This is my U.S. American literature.

What advice would you give emerging writers today? Read broadly and widely – and please, please be kind to yourselves. There are all these rules out there- write every day, write in the morning, write 1000 words a day. Trust *your* rhythm. Trust *your* process. It may not look like anyone else’s. We’re all making it up as we go… and it may look differently, depending on the project. And everything counts as writing — taking notes counts, sometimes checking email counts, walking your dog as something comes together counts. Reading and letting it marinate counts. Walking in the Botanical Garden counts. Be kind, be gentle to yourself.

FPP Interview: Judith Baumel

IMG-0659Talking to poet, professor, and translator Judith Baumel about politics is as gratifying as it is about poetics. In our FPP Interview, Baumel speaks of coping with American politics at home and abroad and what gives her hope. She speaks of her Italian year abroad and what her Adelphi University students – Baumel was the founding director of the MFA program – teach her each year. Hear Judith Baumel read this Sunday, November 18th from 6-8pm at Silvana in Harlem with Ibrahim Abdul-Matin, Tanya Domi, Max S. Gordon, Ruby ShamirVanessa K. Valdés, and Ricardo Hernandez!

You were the founding director of a creative writing program (Adelphi University) what did the administration of this program teach you about writing and creativity? Ha! That it’s near-impossible to protect one’s time for writing and creativity. Cut that. Here’s another answer. Also true. So much of getting things done in the world involves presenting a narrative. Every step of building and nurturing the MFA program called on my core strength as a writer.

IMG_5823What have you learned from your students? My students bring me new music and new film and new art to know. They bring new literature that moves them. They also bring new ways to read old literature. They help me not be a fixed person.

Let’s talk about Italy. How did it feel to stay? How did it feel to return to the US? I translate Italian poetry and travel around Italy frequently. It’s my happy place. It felt selfish to spend my sabbatical there alone (I left behind my husband, my grown children, my 87year old mother) but I decided to be selfish. This was the first extended period in which I dedicated my life to nothing other than my own writing. The Italian pace of life is ideal for me. I woke up late, made a coffee, wrote in bed for a few hours, cooked myself a nice lunch, took a walk, read a lot, had aperitivi with friends, maybe some dinner, went to bed and started it all over the next day. I even managed a version of this schedule during the semester I taught at the University of Genoa. Heaven.

Coming back was a shock.

In Italy I cut back on my consumption of television and radio. This gave me a break from my tendency – my addiction – to ride the 24 hour news cycle. So I avoided the daily despair that comes from listening to the latest outrage and assault to our democracy, our culture, our language.

You write profoundly about politics, especially progressive politics. What gives you hope? What gives you pause? Thanks!  What gives me hope are the many many many young people who are building a new political road. Who are walking door to door. Who are marching. I streamed “March for Our Lives” while in Italy and after about ten minutes I was blubbering with gratitude for these strong and smart kids. This week we are beginning to see the real results of the midterm elections and I hope the new, independent, fierce people who won in local and down-ballot races will bring lasting change.

What gives me pause is the extreme discourse of nationalism, the extreme divisions that still prevail. When mainstream Democrats “reach across the aisle” it seems they want to demonstrate that they have principles of comity, etc. But I fear that is not the right way. Writer Aleksander Hemon just published a great essay called “Fascism is Not an Idea to Be Debated, It’s a Set of Actions to Fight.” More and more I’m understanding Red State/Blue State divide as referencing a division between rural and urban communities. This means the areas have fundamentally different and perhaps opposing economic needs. Nothing new in our country. This was the situation at the Continental Congress. I’m in the middle of Andrew Delbanco’s new book The War Before The War. It’s about the Fugitive Slave Act and is a cautionary tale for our time.

Is there a piece of writing– yours or someone else’s–that really speaks to your experiences these days? American Sonnets for My Past and Future Assassin by Terrance Hayes. Riveting. Brilliant. Wild. Heartfelt. After the 2016 election Hayes started writing a poem every day. Collectively, they are a response to the indignities, the ambiguities, the heartbreak, the threats, the violence of our time. They don’t hold back. They speak truth clearly. But they refuse to be fixed.  The book is the kind of writing that Walt Whitman called “barbaric yawps” of the ordinary citizen.

PotraitJudy-2What should the future be? If you let me talk about the future as being (not Michelle Obama style becoming) it’s easy. The future is a country in which every person can vote and every person’s vote counts. In which Black Lives Matter. In which spending to protect the environment matters. In which distributive justice prevails. A country with zero automatic weapons. A country whose highest goal is to love the stranger (the refugee and the immigrant) and the widow and the orphan (the least among us) as ourselves, as the Torah tells us. I do not have a plan to get us from here to there, alas.

 

Tell us about your Harlem. My Harlem is a literary place. It runs east to west from Piri Thomas to Zora Neale Hurston, Langston Hughes, Claude McKay, Ralph Ellison all the way to Marcus Garvey’s pier for the Black Star Line. It’s also a place with a street life that is fun, though as a Bronx girl, I don’t spend as much time in Harlem as I do uptown.

What was your first knowledge of Harlem? My uncle and my father taught at City College. As a kid I visited what felt like a shining city on the hill of Convent Avenue. It was and still is the best of America, of New York. Where an immigrant kid can get a first rate education on a beautiful, aspirational campus. Later I also taught at City College and loved wandering the nearby streets, the Dominican bakeries on Broadway, the houses on Striver’s Row.

Who are writers that we should be reading right now? Recent must-read poetry books: Claudia Rankine’s Citizen. Erika Meitner’s book Holy Moly Carry Me. Ross Gay’s Catalog of Unabashed Gratitude. I’m proud to be in an anthology called Women Of Resistance: Poems for a New Feminism edited by two friends and former students Danielle Barnhart and Iris Mahan. It’s radical and intersectional.

What advice would you give emerging writers today? Read as much and as widely as you can. Write as much as you can. And follow the cartoonist and writer Lynda Barry’s advice. Do not ever ask yourself these two questions: Is it good? Does it suck?

Is there something I didn’t ask you that you’d like to share?

Nah :)